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Buried evidence proves fighter escort shoot down of MH17/370

Buried evidence proves fighter escort shoot down of MH17/370

The Dutch web site managed to get a great photo of the actual part of the plane attacked, and it proves the fighter jet escorts shot Mh17/370 down.

They released a very clear photo in PDF form, which I have ripped to Jpeg and linked This opens 4,000 pixels wide, make sure you view it full size for the details you need to see that indeed, the cockpit was shot at from both sides and then destroyed with a tank killing round.

Short explanation for now: If this was a missile shoot down:

1. The cockpit would not have fragmented and landed far from the crash, because missiles target the center mass which would be far enough away from the cockpit to not significantly damage it.

2. All shrapnel punctures would be inward.

3. The cockpit would have likely remained intact.

What happened here? There was crossfire targeting only the cockpit, the cockpit of the plane was shot at from both sides which caused punctures both inward and outward as proven by this piece of the aircraft. This 100 percent proves the fighter jets did it, and at least one explosive round was used which blew the cockpit apart. The large body panel sections were blown off the aircraft when the 550 plus MPH wind of flight rammed itself straight into the gaping hole where the cockpit was, which badly overpressured the aircraft. That is why there are so many big pieces scattered across a distance. The plane would coast down to the ground with no smoke trail if only the front of the plane was targeted and explode on impact. THIS IS THE SCENARIO THAT ANSWERS ALL QUESTIONS and it is proven true by just looking at this wreckage piece.

Click the picture below, though it appears large it is nothing compared to the original which will come in if you click for it, and it is important because it is so clear it provides absolute proof this cockpit was in fact shot at with regular guns.

I was going to spend the morning translating the article on Anderwelt to Dutch, but when I hit that web site this morning, they had an English translation there already. For extra perspective, read it


"The facts speak clear and loud and are beyond the realm of speculation: The cockpit shows traces of shelling! You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likeley that of a 30 millimeter caliber projectile. The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes showing shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that at these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent – outwardly! Furthermore, minor cuts can be seen, all bent outward, which indicate that shrapnel had forcefully exited through the outer skin from the inside of the cockpit. The open rivets are are also bent outward.

In sifting through the available images one thing stands out: All wreckage of the sections behind the cockpit are largely intact, except for the fact that only fragments of the aircraft remained . Only the cockpit part shows these peculiar marks of destruction. This leaves the examiner with an important clue. This aircraft was not hit by a missile in the central portion."

And now my analysis:

IF you were going to load dead bodies and dead pilots or no pilots onto an aircraft and dead fly it, and then do a false flag with it, the best rational method would be to destroy the cockpit, and there is a very good reason for this, which is:

The cockpit is the strongest part of the aircraft, and often remains intact after a crash. If you were going to false flag a plane down, you would not want an intact and empty cockpit, or an intact cockpit with pilots that had been "dead for days and smelling of decay" would you? Targeting the cockpit would be key to keeping a lid on a remote controlled flight that had no pilot interaction at all.

The fact the cockpit only was targeted once again confirms flight 370, because even if it was a 777 with a body identical to MH17, 15 years of technology advancement would make the cockpit very different and THAT could not be permitted to show up in any wreckage photos. Better to blow it completely to smithereens. To ensure this, they used fighter jets to do the job rather than take a random chance of a missile leaving obvious evidence that could end up on Youtube.

And if they were not playing filthy with all of this, WHY BOTHER WITH A MISSILE STORY? Why say center mass was targeted, and produce cute graphics of a center hit? The public would have accepted targeting of the cockpit bringing the plane down, why would the perpetrators HAVE TO spawn a lie about a missile?

Summary of inconsistencies from the beginning of all this:

1. The bodies were rotting and dead for days on DAY ONE, no one living boarded the shot down plane.

2. The cockpit was targeted, had entry and exit holes proving guns took the plane down and a lie about a BUK missile was spawned, WHY?

3. In all original photos, the flag on the plane matched flight 370, yet the photos were all subsequently hacked to put all flags on all Malaysia airlines planes in exactly the same position. After this, subsequent photo hacks were done to show all kinds of different versions of the same wreckage pieces, issued directly from Mainstream news sources which allowed cross comparison to prove tampering and hard proof the mainstream media was muddying the waters, and I would like to ask WHY? Why not just show us the wreckage AS IT WAS?

4. Initially the mainstream media reported 108 aids researchers were on the plane "according to the boarding log" and then that same media was forced to redact that and reduce the number to six, which is another lie because IF A BOARDING LOG REALLY EXISTED, THE ORIGINAL 108 AIDS DOCTORS STORY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN REDACTED. Fact? ZERO aids doctors boarded the shot down plane already dead for days and smelling of rot.

5. The shoot down corresponded with the ground assault on Gaza within a provable time frame of 10 minutes, and probably to the exact minute. This would be lottery style luck if Israel did not order the shoot down or have the Mossad set it all up to get double use out of the shoot down by having it distract the news from dirty business elsewhere.

6. The flight was 200 KM off course and over a war zone for the first time EVER. Modern avionics do not allow for such errors, even late 70's avionics would not. HOW DID THAT ERROR HAPPEN other than willful intent and WHY? Well, the frame up of Russia for all of this right when Russia was making a big push for the BRICS alliance that threatened the dollar's reserve status might give you a clue, a huge war on Russia would certainly cause problems for that.

7. Flight 370 had to be gotten rid of, and people disposed of, and it looks like the perpetrators of the shoot down wanted NO WITNESSES so they made sure EVERYONE was smelling of rot to make good and sure they were dead and would not survive any crash and then speak about what happened to flight 370.

8. Media glitches proved this was a psy op being prepared days in advance, which is why an RC showed up in the wheel well of the plane "to show people what it looked like if it crashed" when MH17 had an RD and flight 370 had an RO. And the D on MH17 had a perfectly flat back, the C is a dead giveaway, this was in the works for at least a week and probably longer, RC had not flown for a week and was still on the ground in Malaysia after this shoot down. How did a picture of it supposedly being boarded by a "crash victim" end up in the news?

9. Route MH17 stayed PERFECTLY ON SCHEDULE after this shoot down, yet route 370 was canceled for weeks. How could this be, if flight MH17 really lost an aircraft to an unexpected situation? This difference in behavior is fairly easy to explain: Malaysia airlines was ambushed by the theft of flight 370, but probably went along with the story about the shoot down of MH17 under threat of blackmail, and since all questions were already answered they had no reason to cancel the normal schedule for route MH17.

Ebola outbreak getting spooky

Obviously I think it is intentional, and that this new variant is genetically modified. Whatever the story on this is, if it does end up going on a global rampage you should not go to any authorities for help, because though at the local level they are probably well meaning, the main control at the top is evil and we all know about agenda 21.

lots of people are giving advice about how to treat ebola, and it is mostly pure B.S.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, colloidal silver has ZERO effect on viruses. Colloidal silver is for bacteria. Bacteria have metabolic processes that are interfered with by colloidal silver, which blocks the ability of bacteria to take up oxygen. That is how colloidal silver works. But viruses have no metabolic processes that colloidal silver will affect, they are technically not even alive and are more like machines which deliver commands to cells to produce more viruses until the cells die from overexertion from producing viruses.

The active component of Noni stops many viruses

But do not just run out to buy Noni juice, there are a zillion Noni scams out there and an easy way to get around them - Pineapple. Pineapple contains the same active ingredient found in Noni, at 1/10th the concentration. Since most Noni providers tell you to take it an ounce at a time, you can either go with an ounce of Noni juice or just drink 10 ounces of pineapple juice. The Noni component survives canning, pasteurizing, and all other processing for pineapple.

Though there are obviously no studies about how effective Noni or Pineapple will be against ebola, it is a LOT BETTER CHANCE than colloidal silver, which will give you NO CHANCE. And obviously adding vitiamin C to the mix helps against any virus. Though different viruses act differently to various dietary habits (feed a flu and starve a cold) there is not much information regarding Ebola about this,

And I must state that I am not any sort of expert with Ebola, but I certainly know what I would try and WHO I WOULD AVOID. The disease itself could easily be in the shot claimed to be protection from it.

July 30 2014

Israel is leveling Palestine, and it is obvious the goal is total annihilation. Today Israeli television aired video of people celebrating the destruction of Gaza, and which when translated says "there will be no school in Gaza tomorrow, there are no children left" and since no one can leave Gaza, the implication is that all the children are dead. References to Gaza being a cemetary were also chanted.

So I am going to re-post an article I did years ago about the fact that there are no Islamic suicide bombers. The entire meme is a false flag psy op and if that sounds preposterous, I suggest you read what I came up with. This report took hundreds of hours of study to produce, and I am confident it is dead on.


There are no Islamic rockets being fired from Gaza, no Hamas tunnels, not even as much as a single .22 round coming out of Gaza, it is all a false flag being waged by the Israeli Mossad which is launching the rockets in the name of Hamas and making sure they land harmlessly. This is easily proven by the fact that not a single rocket has ever shown up in the rubble in Gaza after any Israeli bombing, because there is NO WAY the Mossad would ever leave a functioning cache of rockets for even a minute un attended, if they did there would be a small chance a Palestinian might find one and legitimately launch one before the bomb arrived and actually hit something real in Israel. And I think a majority of even the war protesters in Israel know this, and are putting on a huge false show to temper world opinion in Israel's favor.

The suicide bomber report follows

An appeal to common sense

Suicide bombers are total propaganda B.S.

Jim Stone, Re posted on July 30 2014, based on investigative work I did in 2003 with updated info to bring it current.

On Feb 10 2014, Drudgereport had two terrorism related articles up - one is obvious B.S., where an "Iraqi suicide bombing instructor" killed himself and his students by accidentally pushing the button on the belt.

Now, how can you know this is B.S.? First of all, Muslims do not use suicide bombings, because in Islam killing yourself is automatic "you go to hell" regardless of the circumstances. Muslims are in fact supposed to at least try to survive combat. Suicide bombings are nothing but propaganda sold to the gullible masses. In any war, soldiers don't just off themselves, they try to deliver a bomb and get away. Success is rewarded with another chance to go do the same thing again. The entire "suicide bombing" nonsense would be counterproductive if it was actually real because success would always be rewarded by death thus preventing any future successes.

The suicide bombing topic is one that I got onto in 2003, when I figured out what was really going on. Muslims frequently work for Jews, and package delivery is one of the jobs. Most deliveries are legitimate, but even having one in a million actually be a bomb is enough to seed the arena of public opinion that Muslims do bombings, and kill themselves for honor. Reality? Many bombings are in fact disguised as routine deliveries with the victim carrying the bomb, and the perpetrator holding a cell phone to call in the detonation on a totally unaware package carrier.

There is plenty of precedent for this, and it is not only the Jews doing this, the U.S. military does it too.

During the Iraq war, the American soldiers were pulling over drivers, impounding their cars, and when the cars were returned the drivers were instructed to go to the police station to pay the fine. During the time the Army had the cars, they would pack them full of expolsives and then detonate these explosives when the driver arrived at the police station. You may remember that during the Iraq war, there were tons of "suicide bombings" at police stations. THIS was the reason.

But it failed a couple times, and the Army got caught.

1. On May 13, 2005, a 64 year old Iraqi farmer, Haj Haidar Abu Sijjad, took his tomato load in his pickup truck from Hilla to Baghdad , accompanied by Ali, his 11 years old grandson. They were stopped at an American check point and were asked to dismount. An American soldier climbed on the back of the pickup truck, followed by another a few minutes later, and thoroughly inspected the tomato filled plastic containers for about 10 minutes. Haj Haidar and his grandson were then allowed to proceed to Baghdad .

A minute later, his grandson told him that he saw one of the American soldiers putting a grey melon size object in the back among the tomato containers. The Haj immediately slammed on the brakes and stopped the car at the side of the road, at a relatively far distance from the check point. He found a time bomb with the clock ticking tucked among his tomatoes. He immediately recognized it, as he was an ex-army soldier. Panicking, he grabbed his grandson and ran away from the car. Then, realizing that the car was his only means of work, he went back, took the bomb and carried it in fear. He threw it in a deep ditch by the side of the road that was dug by Iraqi soldiers in preparation for the war, two years ago.

Upon returning from Baghdad , he found out that the bomb had indeed exploded, killing three sheep and injuring their shepherd in his head. He thanked God for giving him the courage to go back and remove the bomb, and for the luck in that the American soldiers did not notice his sudden stop at a distance and his getting rid of the bomb.

"They intended it to explode in Baghdad and claim that it is the work of the 'terrorists', or 'insurgents' or who call themselves the 'Resistance'.

2. An American manned check point confiscated the driver license of a driver and told him to report to an American military camp near Baghdad airport for interrogation and in order to retrieve his license. The next day, the driver did visit the camp and he was allowed in the camp with his car. He was admitted to a room for an interrogation that lasted half an hour. At the end of the session, the American interrogator told him: ‘OK, there is nothing against you, but you do know that Iraq is now sovereign and is in charge of its own affairs. We have forwarded your papers and license to al-Kadhimia police station for processing. Go there with this clearance to reclaim your license. At the police station, ask for Lt. Hussain Mohammed, who is waiting for you now. Go there now quickly, before he leaves his shift work”.

The driver did leave in a hurry, but was soon alarmed with a feeling that his car was driving as if carrying a heavy load, and he also became suspicious of a low flying helicopter that kept hovering overhead, as if trailing him. He stopped the car and inspected it carefully. He found nearly 100 kilograms of explosives hidden under the back seat and along the two back doors.

The only feasible explanation for this incident is that the car was indeed booby trapped by the Americans and intended for the al-Khadimiya Shiite district of Baghdad. The helicopter was monitoring his movement and witnessing the anticipated “hideous attack by foreign elements”.

3. The same scenario was repeated in Mosul , in the north of Iraq . A car was confiscated along with the driver’s license. He did follow up on the matter and finally reclaimed his car but was told to go to a police station to reclaim his license. Fortunately for him, the car broke down on the way to the police station. The inspecting car mechanic discovered that the spare tire was fully laden with explosives.

Obviously none of this type of news makes it to CNN.

When I did my study of this topic, it was during my study of the house demolitions in Palestine after the Jenin massacre. I knew that the bombings had to be completely bogus, because the perpetrators were ALWAYS identified FAR TOO SOON.

"Suicide bombings" in Israel always result in the destruction of the entire neighborhood the "bomber" comes from. And in all cases, destruction of their neighborhoods commences within two hours of the "bombing", as if the bulldozers and demolition equipment had been placed there in advance, in anticipation of the bombing.

The Israelis always claimed to have DNA evidence of who did the bombing. But there is a problem with that - No one could get a sample from the bombing site to any lab within two hours, and then replicate the DNA enough to get a trace within two hours, that process takes days. The mere fact that the bulldozings happened within hours proves beyond all doubt that the Israelis in fact were doing the bombings, and blaming it on whoever they wanted a reason to destroy.

And then I found the method. First, they would grab their "bomber" from the area slated for destruction so a settlement could go in there instead. They would smash the "bomber's face beyond recognition. They would then take organs and body parts from the now dead "bomber", crudely sew the bomber back together, take the parts to the location of the "bombing" (which, by the way, would only get Muslims and not Jews in Israel, EVERY SINGLE TIME.) They would put the body parts in a duffel bag full of explosives and set it off, and eventually, afte DNA analysis, it would days later be concluded that the bulldozings that already happened were justified. The completely smashed face would prevent body identification, and subsequently prevent any proof that the "bomber" was never at the scene.

The picture to the left is one such body, with the organs stolen and face smashed beyond recognition. This happens frequently in Palestine

I have spoken to MANY muslims about the "suicide bombings" and none have ever agreed that any type of "suicide attack" would be acceptable in Islam, because you are not supposed to intentionally kill yourself for any reason, even combat. In war you are supposed to do your best to survive.

And with the Israeli organ theft issue, the WAY TOO FAST bulldozings, where there is positively no way any bomber could be identified that fast to justify the destruction of an entire neighborhood, it is obvious that "suicide bombings" are all politically motivated, and come directly from the Knesset.

So before you believe a before you believe a totally misrepresented "terrorist" story regarding a few transformers on Infowars, before you believe that a few Afghan and Saudi goat herders did the WTC, consider the fact that you are probably just being played.

In my book, the entire "suicide bomber" meme is a load of BUNK. Heads up, because they are strongly pushing that meme NOW.

And after being really distracted by flight 370, just as they wanted how about some pictures from Gaza this week?

Try to find anything similar in Israel. One picture, JUST TRY TO FIND ONE. Israel NEVER saw anything comparable, not even 5 percent of the least damning photo here and there is a reason - the ENTIRE rocket/bomber tunnel/suicide bomber meme is a total load of bunk, and a brick can only be thrown so far. Israel did the following for one reason - it is attempting to annex Gaza, and everyone there needs to be dead before that can happen. These photos prove the 1,200 dead figure to be LAUGHABLE, the real figure is AT LEAST five digit thousands.

Death toll below a thousand? YEAH RIGHT!

Absent any Israeli bomb blasts, this is what Gaza actually looked like:

A more current image:

About the serial numbers in the wreckage

Now serial number photos are showing up in the wreckage, with dates going back to 1996. My comment: Photos of serial numbers will NOT move a flag forward to where it is supposed to be, WILL NOT cloak the stench of days rotted bodies, and do not have much credibility when obvious provable photo manipulation occurred days before any of these serial number photos showed up, I guess this is the new approach to faking it all. Scroll down past the Gaza report to see the previous photo tampering, once that has been proven to have been done there is simply no way to fix this psy op.

July 29 2014

Keep that story straight, World War 3 depends on it!

Mainstream media doing backflips over lies because this time it is laughably easy to nail them

"fake alternative news sites are picking up the slack with the thinking people out there, and trying to divert them to B.S. such as this is not even a 777 when all the large engine pieces are in the debris, NO, LOOK THE OTHER WAY THIS IS NOT A 777, YEP, YOU WERE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THIS WAS NOT MH17 BUT PLEASE GOD DO NOT PEG THIS AS FLIGHT 370."

We may well be on the verge of world war 3 over the disposal of flight 370 being pawned off as MH17 being fronted as a shoot down by Russia. The Russians are not stupid, and their intelligence is at least smart enough to keep an eye on this web site, and from here alone the lies surrounding "MH17" are busted, not that the Russians would need this site to get tips about the truth when it is this obvious, surely they did not.

Media releasing multiple smoking guns proving not only tampering, but that the flag alignment is the same as flight 370.

Here is another smoking gun, Here we have in image 1 the window plate perfectly intact but there is a hole below the flag.

Keep in mind that these images are still coming straight from the sources that published them, they are not at this time cached on this web site. That is the best way to prove media inconsistencies, use their own servers to nail them. I have the images saved of course, but for as long as they still work from their original sources, I will embed from them, so people can back trace and see that I am not making all of this up.

The photos say it all, this is WAY TOO MUCH,

Here we have, in photo 2, straight from another source, the window plate kicked or photoshopped out, a hole in the panel below the flag, and the Malaysian flag cropped out of the image, because it nails this as flight 370.

But in photo 3, Fox News says NOPE, that plate is there, and there was never a hole on this panel AT ALL after the crash.

photo 4 is another beautiful bright clear perspective shot, proving the flag lines up exactly the same as the flag on flight 370. You may be asking WHY am I pushing this so hard? The answer is easy. The fake alternative media is trying to front this as not being a 777, while the mainstream media is trying to say the same thing AND frame Russia up for doing it.

Reality? This is NOT ONLY A 777, it is flight 370 (the large engine blades in the wreckage that are ripped off the engine prove it is a 777), and the many different camera angles on that flag proves that the way the flag is lining up is not an optical illusion, it really is flight 370. And this time the evidence is so overwhelming it cannot be denied, and coming complete with crime scene evidence tampering to boot, ANOTHER smoking gun. I am absolutely certain the mainstream media was not in on this to begin with, and screwed up releasing multiple photos proving tampering and proving flight 370.

But the majority of the people who watch the MSM will never catch on to these screw ups. So fake alternative news sites are picking up the slack with the thinking people out there, and trying to divert them to B.S. such as this is not even a 777 when all the large engine pieces are in the debris, NO, LOOK THE OTHER WAY THIS IS NOT A 777, YEP, YOU WERE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THIS WAS NOT MH17 BUT PLEASE GOD DO NOT PEG THIS AS FLIGHT 370.

And to that I have ONE THING TO SAY: Check your media sources, it is litmus test time. In case you are new to this site, here is a photo which shows the flag alignment for MH17 and flight 370.

And after being really distracted by flight 370, just as they wanted how about some pictures from Gaza this week?

Death toll below a thousand? YEAH RIGHT!

Absent any Israeli bomb blasts, this is what Gaza actually looked like:

A more current image:

July 27 2014

Outgoing mails are censored again

Practically everything I am sending out is bouncing, and everything I send out is a response, I do not have any newsletters or bulk mailings.

No 777 engine in the wreckage?

THAT is a load of bunk that gets repeated a LOT. If you have fallen for it, TRY THIS: Look at lots of wreckage photos, until you see one that has the large front turbines in it scattered through the wreckage. These large turbines got ripped off both engines. They are there in the wreckage and people who do not look well enough will think that the back portion of the engine is all there is. That looks smaller than a 777 engine obviously, because it has NONE of the wide diameter blades. I debunked this so quickly that I figured it was not worth posting, but since it is getting pushed around the web a lot, it is time for a debunk.

Take a look, TWO of the large turbines are in this photo:

Yet all the people pushing the "wrong engines" theory will only show you THIS PHOTO or other photo of a partial engine:

And that would be disinfo, folks, just google and look through the debris, THE ENGINES DISINTIGRATED ON IMPACT, and to take only the back portion of the engine which is smaller and peddle it off as the entire thing, when all the huge blades from the front are everywhere in the debris proves fraud, NO ONE WHO OPERATES A TRUTH SITE COULD POSSIBLY POST ONLY THE BACK PORTION OF THE ENGINE and peddle it off as the whole thing without knowing they are lying, the proof of the large engine pieces is simply too easy to find.

Additional wreckage photo proves flight 370

Though they kicked out a window to spin whatever else, they messed up AGAIN. Take a look at the photo to the left - it provides added perspective to prove the flag really is the flag from flight 370 and that the appearance of lining up the same is NOT just an optical illusion.

Right after the shoot down, FOX news posted the next photo down, which proves the window cover was intact and the flag was in the wrong position for MH17, and the correct position for flight 370.
The third photo down is a collage, to show what I am talking about with the flag position being wrong for MH17. Once again, even though the new debris photo shows the window kicked completely out, the flag is STILL IN THE WRONG POSITION.

The original image (immediately to the left here) which shows the blocked off window and no hole below the flag is from FOX,UPDATE: CHECK THE IMAGE SOURCE, THIS IS STILL COMING IN FROM FOX NEWS INTACT and is only embedded in this web site which can be verified by right clicking on the image and inspecting element/source.Someone else in the media obviously introduced something new to suit a new story and the embed which originates at Fox News PROVES IT. ONE BLOOPER: IN THE NEW IMAGE, THE FLAG STILL MATCHES FLIGHT 370, AND THE ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVE PROVES BEYOND A DOUBT THIS IS NOT AN OPTICAL ILLUSION

Mark wrote:

Dear James,

I lookup your site daily to checkup latest info. Yesterday I saw the images from the same piece of window/flag debris which was shown first in an other angle. They indeed do not match even slightly. First there's a hole just under the flag in about the middle of the 2 windows in the new image. Which ISN'T there in the old image.(See newest flag weird hole.jpg)

Second point is that the glass of the edge window is broken now and grass is coming through. Which wasn't the case in the first image either.(See old flag weird hole.jpg)

Keep up the good work.

Sinc. yours, Mark.

My response: If there was NOTHING to hide, ALL DEBRIS IMAGES WOULD LOOK THE SAME. Fox posted theirs first. Why is someone either messing with the crash scene or photoshopping on steroids (the fakes are GOOD, REALLY GOOD.) In fact, with hollywood quality fakes being made, or with the crash scene getting messed with (take your pick) it makes one answer obvious, THERE IS SOMETHING BIG TO HIDE HERE, SOMETHING AS BIG AS A JUMBO JET, PERHAPS THE FACT THAT JUMBO JET IS REALLY NOT MH17?

Andy wrote:

Hi James

your article about the 2 planes as stated in the subject, is really interesting. but i am confused. You say that the window configuration of these 2 planes are different. I found plane spotter videos, which shows similar window configs. any clue on this?

Andi My response:

Flight mh17 was 17 years old and had many modifications. The latest modification matched flight 370. That is the cause of confusion. Therefore, since the body was identical at the time of shoot down, only the paint can tell the story. On flight 370, the flag was in a different position, and the rubble clearly shows the flag for flight 370. MH17 had the flag farther forward on the plane.

Now fakes are quickly being made to muddy the waters, and the old window configuration for MH17 is getting photoshopped into the wreckage and published by the MSM to make it look like MH17 was unique and did not match flight 370. Yet even minimal fact checking will reveal that when crashed, MH17 really did look identical to flight 370 with only the flag to tell the difference. Scroll down to July 25 to see this.

The fact they are attempting to make the wreckage look like an older modification that was updated years before the shoot down proves beyond a doubt that it really is flight 370 and they are DESPERATE, and that the flag is the detail they either expected everyone to miss or missed themselves. Now (way too late) they have to try to convince the public that the plane never looked like flight 370 at all with outright fakes that are easily proven false with historical data.

July 25 2014

For the flight 370 flag report, scroll down to the headline "Redaction" (actually it is not really a redaction, it is a counter punch)

A whole lot of photoshopping going on

The flag in the wreckage is now getting cropped out of images posted of the shoot down, and someone either kicked the aluminum plate over the window out or a second window got photoshopped in. Take a look at this photo:

and ask yourself, WHY HAS THIS BEEN DONE? Obviously to muddy the waters, that is a super professional photoshop hack, we all know what the real photo is supposed to look like and this was obviously done in response to people discussing the flag, and having the window arrangement match flight 370 exactly. They HAD TO release a photo showing a window where there was none in the original crash scene, to muddy the waters and just "PROVE" this is MH17. Notice the flag is cropped out, because it is the smoking gun that proves this is flight 370.


About this, Dubvrako, who sent in the new virtual reality photo wrote:

Hi Jim,

Following your articles on the Flag and sealed up window. Seems a lot of photoshopping is in progress regarding 370, 17 etc.

But this little gem turned up in an Australian edition of the Age newspaper. Think you might like it.

Notice they cut out the flag in this picture.

My response:

Yep, this confirms it - they are going to BURY the fact this was flight 370 by destroying all forensic value of the crash scene and releasing really good photoshopped "reality" to replace what is out there telling the truth right now. NEVER FORGET WHAT THAT WRECKAGE LOOKED LIKE TO BEGIN WITH, the punched out or photoshopped in window port to match the most popular photos of MH17 in conjunction with the cropping out of the flag says it all - they intend to BURY THIS, DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.

They have no intentions at all of being honest with this, and the fake is so spectacularly well done it is absolutely mind blowing.

Zenhia from Ukraine wrote:



My response: Without question, Putin had nothing to do with this shoot down, and being from Ukraine you would obviously have a better perspective than the European media is reporting. I have no doubt this shoot down had three motives, two of which were 1. The frame up of Putin as a villain over BRICS, and 2. to provide cover for the destruction of Gaza, which people are telling me is as severe as I suspected (total annihilation). With Gaza, remember that there is now a Jewish section that they can put on the press, say it is Gaza and say LOOK! IT IS STILL STANDING while the rest is leveled.

And if any war with Russia breaks out over this shoot down, I find it difficult to believe that YES I will have to stand with Putin on that one, (Figure the odds of a cold war American EVER saying that) but it would in this case be the correct thing to do. America and Europe have really fallen that far politically.

Thanks for writing!

Emil wrote a long mail which I will summarize down to a few lines:

In the latest photo you posted, you show MH17 with a blanked window. Why? And, It is obvious the flag position is that of MH370 when you go through the wreckage photos, but I am confused about why MH17 has a blanked window on your site now and also WHY images of flight 370 which show the flag position are now gone from those sites. Do you know what happened to the originals?

My response:

Mh17 went through three different appearances over time, the latest of which made it match flight 370 except for the location of the flag. The flag location is what I am talking about, flight 370 had the flag in a different position from ALL appearance versions of MH17, it was much farther back, as if an error had been made with the placement of the flag on flight 370, and THAT is the detail that went missing for this shoot down/flight 370 disposal psy op.

Once this flag anomaly was discovered by others, and after I picked it up, legitimate photos of flight 370 started vanishing, being replaced with flags exactly matching MH17. It is an easy task to have a few photo experts use NSA provided processor back doors to get into systems and modify the damning photos, when there were only five or so on the web to begin with that really showed this anomaly well.

And it is interesting indeed that the originals are no longer out there to be had, not on ANY web site even those such as planespotters which were known to have had them. It looks like you found one I never saw that makes it perfectly clear, and you definitely found another wreckage photo that shows it plain as day, I will try to get that posted when I am online with my own computer.


Jackie wrote: (and this really says it ALL:

The last couple of days your site has started shutting down after about a minute or so. Today it is crazy, maybe every 10-15 seconds. Interesting how quickly they get on to erasing evidence - I managed to check out the flag/window line up in short bursts. The thing for me is that, if you were wrong about the windows because you're a crazy delusional in need of medical help, then the pictures would stay as they are. However, somebody felt the need to change them, and if there was nothing to hide then why would they do that? When we were all talking about the fact that there was no plume of smoke descending out of the sky from the downed aircraft, the day after there it was. Of course if it was a one off occurance you'd be thinking, oh I must have missed that somehow, but when every query to every inconsistency finds ready evidence available a day or two after it starts to feel like The Truman Show, and we're ALL on it. I know you've been telling us this from day one so please forgive those of us like myself who have not personally bumped into the glass ceiling and still have a hard time getting their heads around the appalling reality. Thanks for all your hard work.


My response It is standard procedure now for "them" to edit photos, videos, and anything else they find inconvenient when people discover the truth, this is one of the primary objectives of the NSA now. Their data center in Utah has this as a primary purpose, it is obvious this is true because after it went online, I cannot even keep photos on my own web site from getting messed with. This is made possible for them with back doors into operating systems and processors, and is a good reason to shut the NSA down. The NSA is supposed to protect WE THE PEOPLE, and not be used as a tool for destroying the truth. Glad to see you caught on!

A great quote from Mike Rivero at

Mike told the truth about Gaza more efficiently than I have ever seen anyone do:

"Look carefully at the wreckage. See any rockets or rocket launchers? Because that's Israel's excuse for targeting civilians, hospitals, and schools; that HAMAS is hiding rockets and rocket launchers in them.

To find a lie look for what should be there and isn't and what isn't there in this video and the hundreds just like it are the remains of rockets and rocket launchers!"

Well said Mike, that really sums it up in only a few words.

July 24 2014


Flight 370/MH17 flag/window report redacted due to possible error, However, the wreckage piece is STILL not from MH17, something is amiss.

My final report on this is being left up to show people how the possible error was made.

HERE IS THE REDACTION: It appears that the flight 370 photos online have been tampered with to move the flag forward after the flag location anomaly was mentioned. (the flag on MH17 did not match the wreckage, but the flag on flight 370 did and subsequently it appears photos of flight 370 have been messed with to move the flag forward to the same position as the flag on MH17.) So I have another way to make all of this obvious, despite tampered with photos online:

Take another look at the wreckage photo:

And compare this to a decent crop of the windows and flag on MH17:

AND THEN, compare it to the original perspective from an original flight 370 photo, before any of this was ever mentioned online

Something is definitely amiss here, perspective did not mess the flag position up in the wreckage that badly. This wreckage piece is not from MH17. So I am leaning towards pictures of flight 370 being tampered with on the web after all of this was mentioned, with the originals nowhere to be had but have to redact this report anyway because the original flight 370 photos are not out there anymore. And if that does not do it for you, WHY does the wreckage piece obviously not match ANY photo of MH17 AT ALL? They did not think to change those . . . . .

Here is the original article quote everyone missed, which caused a LOT of confusion:

"In all paint jobs, things do not always line up the same. And the position of the flag on MH370 puts the leading edge of the flag at the leading edge of first window behind the door, and on MH17, that flag instead lines up with the (trailing edge) of the second window" UPDATE: IN THE PHOTO POSTED IT WOULD BE THE THIRD WINDOW IF YOU COUNT THE LONE WINDOW, WHICH I DID NOT EXPECT PEOPLE TO DO SO THIS TIME AROUND I DID NOT USE THE BLOGGERS COLLAGE, I USED MH17's LATEST PAINT JOB. Look again, the flag position really is the smoking gun, THEY SCREWED UP THE FLAG POSITION FOR THE CO-PILOT SIDE OF FLIGHT 370. IT DOES NOT MATCH OTHER PLANES FROM MALAYSIA AIRLINES (or at least definitely not MH17).

I guess I made an error in using the blogger's photo collage for this, because he used the old paint job and window configuration for MH17 and that caused a lot of reader confusion with the point about the flag I was trying to make. But I thought people would see what I was talking about anyway, flight 370 had a screwed up flag, it was too far back.

Any way you cut it, even if every accurate photo of flight 370 out there gets destroyed or it really is all camera perspective error, that is NOT the flag from MH17, this is visibly obvious in all photos even without using a piece of paper to line things up on your screen. I am not redacting that point. And if "they" are tampering with photos, the flags will move to whatever position needed to sway public opinion away from nuking Israel. They surely deserve it, especially after what they did to Gaza under the cover of this MH17 story.

RC vs RD Facebook photo screw up strongly indicates ALL PASSENGERS were in on the MH17 psy op

How do you take a photograph of a plane you are supposed to get on IMMEDIATELY BEFORE BOARDING, when the plane you photographed is 8,000 miles away and at a totally different airport? ANSWER: you did not fly that day.

Take a look at (read more than just the headline) and THINK. Supposedly the photo, which clearly shows 9M-MRC as being the plane boarded, a plane claimed to be flight MH17 was supposedly uploaded to Facebook at the airport immediately before the "victim" got on the plane. Too bad 9M-MRC was 8,000 miles away, which required an awful long walk and swim to the gate.

He got on it though, a simple reality proven by the fact that CNN and FOX never lie.

Beast train BUSTED

The first leg of my journey documenting illegal children on trains in Mexico went extremely well and was a complete success. I have several hours of video to pick through so far to complete a final video, which will be released soon after my journey is complete.

I first stopped in Queteraro Mexico because Queteraro is the choke point through which ALL northbound trains in Mexico must pass. At this choke point, I was able to interview the security for Kansas City Southern, Queteraro State security and a private security firm, as well as a Mexican man who has ridden the trains a lot to get the entire story. And as Arturo in Guadalajara said, the entire illegals on trains story is a HOAX. Both the professional rail yard security in Queteraro and the man who frequently rides trains flatly stated that the "beast train" reports were outright lies, and that they from their vantage point could confirm this because they see every northbound train in Mexico go by and have NEVER seen a train with a thousand people on it, or any train with even more than 30 as an all time record. The videos of thousands of people on mexican trains are all staged hoaxes, which even the man who rides trains frequently frankly stated, and three different security forces confirmed.

Kansas City Southern, which is stationed at this choke point stated that 20-30 people travel the north south route PER DAY, out of dozens of trains per day. Most trains have no one at all on them. Kansas City Southern was interviewed at the south end of the yard

The state run security man was interviewed on a private spur in the center of the yard. He said he never saw anyone on any train on his spur EVER and he very infrequenly sees anyone out in the main rail yard, which is visible from his vantage point.

The private security firm, which is in place to bust people at the north end of the yard matched exactly what Kansas City Southern said - which is 20-30 illegals attempt to travel the north south route in Mexico PER DAY. When I asked them about the trains with thousands of people these security people flatly stated it was a total lie, and that it has never happened.

When asked how many children come through on the trains, they said a couple every couple days, but not every day, which is far from the thousands per day lie in the American press.

The man who rides the trains often confirmed what security said, and filled in the rest of the details, and that is that despite what lying media outlets out there say, absolutely NO illegals ride Kansas City Southern trains, because Kansas City Southern keeps too close an eye on the trains and busts anyone riding their trains almost immediately. Before clicking the next link, be aware that the article it goes to is a lie that has been confirmed FALSE, I am only linking it to give you an example of the lying propaganda that is going on regarding the and Kansas City Southern. The reality on the ground goes in stark contrast with the lies told by the mainstream media, which claimed Kansas City Southern allowed thousands of people on their trains and operated The Beast. Here is the response from Kansas City Southern calling the American media on

The man who frequently rides trains clarified everything, and said that there is ONE train per day on the north south route in Quetraro, which is the choke point for all trains - ONE train per day which is operated by Ferromex has a majority of the illegals on it out of a total number of train jumpers of 20-30 per day, and they take that train because there are many places to hide and it goes the entire way without stopping.

And obviously, if a Mexican is riding these trains and was there to be interviewed, other mexicans ride these trains and are counted among the 20-30 illegals per day, the 20-30 number is not entirely made up of illegals, it also includes Mexicans trying to hitch a free ride the same way people sometimes do in America.

Both the security at the north end of the yard and the frequent Mexican train rider confirmed that very few children ride these trains, even out of the 20-30 people per day that do. All names of people interviewed will be in then video, including names and very clear audio confirming everything said here. This video will need to be assembled from several hours of video and will also include Arturo, who was interviewed in Guadalajara and said 10-15 illegals travel through Guadalajara per day, which fits perfectly because the line splits north of Queteraro, with half the traffic going through Guadalajara up into California, and the other half going into Texas. There were absolutely no conflicting numbers across all people interviewed on the main lines, PROOF I have done an accurate job of busting the children on trains story.

The next leg of this expose on the illegal immigrant children on trains hoax will explore the only other option other than DHS buses shipping them up the entire way - and the far more sensible option - that these children are getting on private buses and riding up in safety and comfort. Any adult can buy them a ticket, no ID is required and it is the only other way. Once on a private bus, it is a guaranteed safe and quick ride through Mexico.

July 23 2014

July 23 updates appear below this top posted report, which is being kept on top because it is important.

From July 22:


This report has been partially redacted, see above

Earlier today I messed up a report about the number of seats and pulled that report. NOW WE HAVE THE SMOKING GUN, thanks to another internet sleuth who was linked through by Gordon Duff who was re-posted on beforeitsnews, and I cannot find due to the cattle trail of links. But secondary confirmation nails it, this sleuth, who spent many hours comparing photos of the wreckage to photos of MH370 and MH17, found the SMOKING GUN. I spent about two hours confirming this guy did not get this wrong.

The mistake in the shoot down false flag was subtle, yet obvious, and is absolute proof it was flight 370.

In all paint jobs, things do not always line up the same. And the position of the flag on MH370 puts the leading edge of the flag at the leading edge of the first window behind the door, and on MH17, that flag instead lines up with the trailing edge of the second window. You have to look at the correct side of the plane to see it, because the opposite side lines up the same on both planes. But when the correct sides of the two aircraft are compared (this would be the same as the passenger side of an American car) you can clearly see that the flag is an entire window off where it is supposed to be if it really was MH17.

There is no way out of this, this is irrevocable proof the shot down plane is flight 370. Now there is another spare jet out there for another false flag, 9M MRD.

Below are the two smoking gun photos.

It is important to note that MH370 was new, and therefore never repainted. This is the way the flag ALWAYS looked on Flight 370, and it forever pegs the shoot down plane as flight 370.

Next is flight MH17. Notice the flag position which is farther forward on MH17, (the correct position, on Flight 370 the flag position was screwed up and it was about 10 inches too far back).

As earlier stated, my look into the illegal immigrant children story has now begun, and will continue for approximately 2 weeks as I travel mexico to bust the children on trains story and find out how they are actually coming up to America.

A development in the rotten bodies report

Now it is being said that a Dutch doctor who was at the scene within a day has released testimony that the bodies on the plane were rotten and dead days before the crash, which would corroborate what the military commander said and that evidence is there that they were also tortured before the crash. However, the translation from Dutch is very poor and I am working on secondary confirmation.The Mexican press did a very detailed piece about the dead bodies, showing them being loaded on the train in body bags, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW BAD THEY SMELLED, with absolutely everyone at the scene gagging from the stench including robust military types and doctors. It was surreal, I have never seen anything like that regarding bodies from any disaster. There is no way that kind of rot could have set in in such a short time unless the bodies were indeed dead long before the shoot down.

It is extremely important to re-enforce reality with the fact that the bodies were rotten, because this proves beyond any doubt that THIS WAS NOT FLIGHT MH17, THERE IS NO POSSIBLE CONCIEVABLE WAY IT WAS NO MATTER WHAT STORIES ARE SPUN AND THEORIES ARE PRESENTED. I could care less what the MSM spins about this, the rotten bodies alone renders everything else irrelevant. There is no middle ground to be had with this.

July 23 coverage starts here

About the different paint jobs -

As you go through the different pictures of MH17, you need to remember that MH17 was a 17 year old aircraft that has been painted many times. This was NOT the case for flight 370, it was never repainted because it was almost new. So the flag comparisons and window comparisons for flight 370 are legitimate, that is the way it always looked and it never looked any different, and that is why I am flatly stating the photos prove the shot down plane is flight 370.

There were hundreds of mails today which I cannot answer because I am now on the road documenting the illegal immigrant children story. But I am going to declare the photos prove it is indeed flight 370, because rest assured as a supposedly normally scheduled flight, MH17 was canceled that day, and they did not have a supply of dead and rotten bodies for MH17, which flight 370 is highly probable to have had. Add to this the other anomalies, such as flown 200 KM off course into a war zone, the fact flight 370 needed to be disposed of, the fact that it has been declared that a legitimate investigation can never be done, the fact that it had two escorts which prove Ukraine did it and not Russia, the coincidental timing with the death sentence for Gaza, to keep that out of the news and well, what more would anyone need to confirm this? The perfectly matching paint to what flight 370 always had is the bonus clue, in my opinion it is all clear enough to start hanging people,

It is said that dead men can tell no tales, but when they are a planeload of rotting bodies that should have been perfectly fresh, THAT ALONE SAYS IT ALL, from THAT ALONE you can declare this plane to be flight 370, HOW ELSE COULD IT BE? Undead Zombies DID NOT board MH17.

This web site will be updated daily during the travels required to do the immigrant children report, if updates stop expect something to be amiss. As far as flight MH17 goes, it is pointless to keep digging more evidence, it is far beyond proven already and as far as Gaza goes, Israel totally annihilated the place under the cover of the MH17 story and I expect there to be over 20,000 dead and suspect a far higher number. The Mexican television showed it all, IT IS FAR BEYOND ANYTHING BEING STATED ON THE WEB, Gaza is horrific beyond belief after what Israel did and the rockets are easily proven false flag attacks, but what can I do about Gaza other than tell people what reality is there? I suspect the actual goal is total expulsion of all inhabitants live or dead.

A quick sailent point came in as I rapidly scan the mail and look at 2 percent or so - This happened but I did not mention it but it really nails the story another time:

Afa wrote: Further to the post today regarding the photo proof:

Here is another picture that from "Dutch passenger Cor Pan" making a claim "this is what it looks like in case it goes down" and posted the following pictures.

I didn't think anything of it till today. Look at the windows!!!!! From your photos you posted it looks like mh370

My response: The real smoking gun with the photo referenced by Afa is the fact that the plane's identification number was enough into the photo to prove it was not MH17 OR flight 370. So the question is: WHY WAS THIS DONE TO BEGIN WITH if this was not all pre-planned and as part of the psy op the think tank behind it did not want a little drama in the mix? The plane actually photographed had not flown for six days and did not fly even two days after the shoot down. This entire MH17 deal was planned well ahead of time, with groundwork being laid days in advance.

Though the photo Afa is referring to does nothing to change the comparison between flight 370 or MH17, it does stand in the evidence pool that a well planned psy op with plenty of details was under development long before any shoot down happened, yet another piece of evidence to consider.

July 22 2014

GAZA Last night Mexican television did a huge segment on Gaza. In some scenes nothing identifiable is left, with only a barren lanscape of destroyed concrete and collapsed buildings all the way to the horizon (as far as the camera could see). It looks like Israel did the big dirty under the cover of "flight 370MH17," which was a heinous zio crime all by itself.

After the scene of total devastation, they aired video of a portion of gaza that appeared mostly intact, and went into a segment about displaced families and how the entire water infrastructure was completely destroyed and there was no safe water to drink other than stores of it that were made ready beforehand.

The number of dead listed is laughable, it has to be tens or hundreds of thousands. There is no way out of this, but I am certain that when all is said and done, the ziopress will firmly re-enforce the solid concrete fact that fewer than 50 people died, just like they did at and the Mexican press is reporting that Gaza is a war crime and it is all Israel's fault.

Not a 777?

Someone did a poor report saying it was not a 777 based upon the engines. However, it is obvious that MH17 crashed at hundreds of miles an hour, probably well over 350, and the reference plane (that crash in California last year) actually made a partially safe landing and the ripped off engine was intact. You cannot do comparisons between totally demolished engines and one that is intact, and from what I can see in the pieces laying around from the smashed to pieces engines of flight 370 (I am calling it now, it is time to stop playing games with this) all the pieces are there, including the large pieces.

I looked through the wreckage myself and see dissasembled Trent 892 engines. Enough pictures of the internal parts are available to show they are all there. The huge bell ends disintigrated in the crash, and what is left looks like a smaller engine if you do not look for pieces elsewhere. The big blades are there, ripped off and strewn through the wreckage.

The Mexican slant on America trying to blame Russia

Last night the Mexican press did a huge piece on flight 370 Er, uh, "MH17." They aired all the footage from the Russian satellites which proved Ukraine shot it down, and then went on an endless rant about how America is trying to blame Russia. I could not make out the actual take, if the Mexican press believes Russia did it or not, but I would guess that if they aired the radar records as well, which showed two Ukranian jets just as the original tower reports said (and subsequently got deleted off Twitter) and then followed up with what the Russian satellites said, that they showed enough truth to make even the brainless aware of what actually happened.

July 21 2014

Russian satellites and American satellites recorded the truth

America is being forced to backtrack on accusations that Russia downed flight MH17 after Russia produced proof that (as this web site reported on day one,) Ukranian fighter jets were accompanying flight MH17. Now an AP reporter has also stepped forward, saying that all along, from day one, he was shown proof that American satellites also tracked the shoot down, and that America knew Ukraine downed the plane as well.

On day one this web site clearly stated this shoot down was done in Ukraine BY UKRAINE when the real MH17 is never supposed to get within 200 KM of where this plane was shot down. This shoot down was done 200KM East of MH17´s established flight path because the outcome of the investigation could be controlled in that region and falsified to forever hide that beyond a reasonable doubt the plane was in fact flight 370. A real investigation would look at serial numbers on parts which would identify the plane they came from, and would not be limited to photos of a paint job and even those photos are totally messed up when all sources of them are put together in the same bin. A summary of the evidence proving this was flight 370, including what happened to the MH17 "passengers" is below:

Questions answered

The most asked question is "what about the passengers who boarded MH17."? Answer: Obviously, with the doctors claiming to have DNA identified the passengers on day two which is days too soon because you need two samples to identify anyone - one from before the passenger boarded which would be gathered from the home and one of the passenger, to match to the passenger, that statement is patently false because it could not be done that quickly and if they had to say that and were willing to this early on, they are lying about everything and it then becomes obvious that perhaps NONE of the stated passengers were aboard.

It is impossible get DNA identification THAT FAST when samples have to be gathered from Holland, China, Malaysia and other places from homes and elsewhere to be matched against people on the plane, and the fact the MSM is reporting that this was accomplished within two days, analyzed and matched to passengers proves the entire official story is a lie. It would be difficult to get to even one home and collect a decent sample in two days, let alone every home everywhere, and AFTER getting that sample then actually analyze it, a process which by itself takes days.

The obviously brand new passports also proves no one listed actually boarded any flight MH17.

Every passport gathered from the wreckage was absolutely totally and completely sparkly new as if it had never been touched before. This was shown in numerous youtube videos and higher quality photos. In any stack of passports gathered from people at random you would probably get one or two like that, but the fact that not a single one showed any wear at all proves that they were all printed a couple days prior to be used for falsifying who was on the plane. There should have been a mix of new, lightly used and totally dog eared passports if they really were as claimed. Once again, along with the phony DNA identification claims, the all 100 percent sparkly new passports reveal the lie. Obviously ZERO passports were on that plane, and a psy op team went through the wreckage and threw them there. The shoot down was well planned and teams were ready.

The rotten bodies proves no one living boarded that plane

Military commanders confirmed that a large portion of the bodies in the wreckage were rotten, drained of blood and dead for days before the plane even took off. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT ANOMALY WITH A RATIONAL BRAIN? Well, Rense said they were in the cargo hold and regular passengers were in the cabin, but that is a dubious claim when the air in the cargo hold of a 777 (which is pressurized) gets circulated through the main cabin as well as a normal matter of course which would have stunk so bad NO ONE would ever board, there were TONS of sparkly new passports and not a single used one, and "everyone was already DNA identified on DAY TWO" which would be flatly impossible.

The fact that flight MH17 continued on schedule without a hitch afterward also proves no one living boarded MH17 BECAUSE THAT ROUTE LOST ZERO AIRPLANES.

The fact that it is business as usual already also proves Route MH17
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